Black Bikers Experience

There has been very little research available on the subject of the disrespect and discrimination female members in co-ed black motorcycle clubs experience.  There are hundreds of black female motorcycle clubs and many black female motorcyclists who are full members of co-ed clubs however it tends to be an oxymoron when it comes to the input they have when it relates to important decisions within their clubs. I will say in some not all black co-ed motorcycle clubs because I don’t want to be as small minded as the men who disrespect and discriminate against their female counterparts in these black co-ed clubs.

  

I firsthand have experienced this behavior just a few days ago. Let me say it has been this way since I joined the club. I immediately observed the double standards that were applied between male and female members. Now let me ask what’s behind the exclusionary practices involved in oppressing women in the black motorcycle club community. In this male dominated arena, women are objects.  Men, and even motorcycles, hold the subject position. What does the future hold for these clubs and their female members? A large part of the information comes from first-hand experience; like my very own personal experience.

  

Much of the black motorcycle club basic understanding and or knowledge are based on the politics in the area in which the club exist. I have spoken rather candidly with a few of my female sisters in my former club because of their lack of wisdom on handling the disrespect and discrimination during our club meetings.  Since I’ve been around the biker world, for a time now, I felt compelled to educate a bit. I asked a very simple question, “Are you here for the love of the patch or the politics?”

  

I find that if you are to exist, if you have the stomach for it; you can survive within a co-ed black motorcycle club by developing a certain mindset. A mindset that will allow you to be told, I quote,” your place here is to only handle administrative things, make sure the men have what they need, keep your mouth shut, no opinion opposite of the men, pay your dues and you definitely are forbidden to express openly your opinion and let the men run the club.”

  

I’ll tell you the consequences to a female who knows her value and who has no fear of anyone but God. She will be labeled as a trouble maker. Yeah that was me. (LMFAO)

  

I was motivated to join the club because I thought they would be fair and equitable in their treatment of their members in all instances and I found out differently. If they don’t like you, equitable treatment won’t apply to you. I will again say not all co-ed clubs treat their female members this way but there are far more that do than those that don’t. My next question is what will be the future for the clubs and their female members?

  

I am no longer with the club as of this week. I turned in my colors. I was raised by the rule; if you don’t stand for something, then you ain’t about nothing. I refuse to allow male or female to disrespect me one too many times before it will be on and poppin. One gift my God has given me is a courageous spirit and through life it has at times felt like a curse and most days a blessing.

  

It tends to keep down bullshit for me as well as having me with a few select people in my life that can appreciate my honesty. I don’t make threats; I make promises. This was taught to me by my mother and it has worked to eliminate the riff raff. I feel much more comfortable knowing where I stand with an individual then to have some fake shady person around me slithering like a snake.

  

A real man can appreciate my being direct, straight to the point, confident, assured and knowing my value as the great Queen my God has created. I learned all of this after several years of bumps and lots of bruises. My experience has shown me that when a woman arrives at this point she becomes a threat to little boys because of their uncertainty and disdain for themselves. Guess what, that ain’t my damn problem. Get over it boys.

  

Some want to place this behavior on Black Outlaw Motorcycle Clubs. I beg to differ it seems the  sport bike motorcycle clubs who are trying to find their way and their place on the set are much more subject to this behavior. Property is what Outlaw Motorcycle Clubs consider their women and sport bike clubs who try this aren’t sure who they are on the set.

  

The club I just left straddles the fence.  They want to consider themselves a sport bike club with outlaw tendencies. Where they do that at? I believe if they were open to know better they would do better. (LMAO)

  

Antiquated egotistical thought processes have been the downfall of most dynasties, countries, relationships and yes black co-ed motorcycle clubs. The ones that survive are those who have female members who are willing to accept being treated less than equal. Why would you make a female be required to do the same things as a male prospect and a male patched member and not have the same rights.

  

Some females don’t have enough testicular fortitude to make a move toward something different or stick together to make a change within their clubs. It saddens me when I see women who are prime examples of this and they don’t realize it trickles down into their personal lives too. If you accept bullshit from the club you will accept bullshit in your relationships with a man or a woman. Abuse is no respecter of person, race or gender.

  

This goes a lot deeper than we would like to indulge ourselves. It’s easier to see when there’s white racism against blacks’ cause it’s so common, but the reverse happens as well. Because we as black bikers it doesn’t matter if we are Outlaw or Sport Bike our black motorcycle community is virtually invisible to most people. When they speak of a biker they normally are referring to a white biker and then they identify them as a biker or outlaw motorcycle gang.

  

The Chosen Few MC Los Angeles, LA Defiant Ones MC and the East Bay Dragons MC out of Oakland are only a few of the oldest remaining black and biracial motorcycle clubs in California. They were formed in the mid and late 1950’s.  One thing most aren’t familiar with is that there are Black Female Outlaw Motorcycle Clubs.  Hogg Divas MC, Road Queens MC, Iron Essence MC, Most Wanted MC and possibly a few others out on the West Coast.

  

Like their white counterparts, African-American outlaw clubs claimed “outlaw” status, rode only Harley-Davidson, and were all-male.  In addition, outlaw clubs in the African-American motorcycle community are the ones who sanction other motorcycle clubs based on their geographic location.  The black outlaw clubs are those who through various means have carved out geographic territory that they govern.  They are considered the majority club in an area and must have large numbers to maintain control of their territory.

  

In most co-ed black motorcycle clubs don’t allow female members to serve as president, vice-president or sergeant-at-arms.  They are likely to serve as business manager or secretary of the club; which is the biggest crock of bull I’ve seen.  If a woman just happens to obtain a position within a co-ed club as President or Vice-President they will have to fight for respect from some of their male members.

  

The biggest controversy for me is that all of these men came from a woman and allowed their mothers, who guided, instruct and taught them but once they get to the motorcycle set that chauvinistic stench surfaces.  “The men run the clubs”.  Straight up bullshit!

  

Women riders are faced with difficult decisions when seeking to become a member of a motorcycle club.  If they do not wish to be property, then there are few choices available.  They can join an all-female club that has been sanctioned by the outlaws, which would also allow them to hold high officer positions.   Female motorcycle clubs are now becoming much more respected than before. They weren’t considered valid a few years back because they were comprised of all females.

  

The crap I’ve seen when women are in officer positions they are directly or indirectly instructed to not speak unless spoken to. When they do they are told to shut up. Again just the other day I saw firsthand when a female officer wanted to speak the male officers didn’t acknowledge her hand up in the meeting. The sick part about it is that some of them allow the men to look down on them and still serve in these positions.

  

The sexism that permeates the black MC set is pitiful. You would think as a people who have experienced racism and oppression they would want to not subject each other to these diseases anymore.

  

I am not sure if men realize women ride motorcycles for the same reasons that they do.  It gives us the same audacious motivation and turns us on too.  Women also join motorcycle clubs for the same reasons as well: a sense of camaraderie with others who share a similar passion.  Yet the hatred of female motorcycle riders in the black motorcycle club community is unavoidable.  There are very few women who join co-ed black motorcycle clubs.  Most co-ed clubs limit the numbers of female members based on the ratio of male-to-female membership to maintain control.

  

Those who want to experience this without the hassle of sexism within the club join an all-female club. Women are subject to being in relationships with men in the black motorcycle club community that resemble one like a pimp to a prostitute, instead of their professed relationship of club brother to club sister.  Similarly, the female motorcycle club member is mistreated and by her associations with male club members.  When you hear an abuser say you made me do it; that’s what this feels like to me. It’s my fault and most women stay in those unhealthy relationships. Not me!

  

The club I just left treats their female counterparts in a bad version of what they think Outlaw clubs call “Property Of.” That isn’t the case with Property for a Black Outlaw Motorcycle Club. Some of my former female sisters conducted themselves with the belief that the motorcycle club is a masculine entity and accept their role as objects.  They agree that the woman’s role as a full patched member is to take care of the male members various needs in the club and the men has the role to protect and provide for the women.

  

The funny shit was some of the men didn’t provide or protect the women they just used them at the club I just left. I will say and I will make it clear that not all of the men within my former club behaved like this but it was more than I could stand.  How I see it, it is to accept the role as a trick when I’m fully patched as my male member and accepting the label as “other”.

  

The stupidity in this, for me, is that African Americans have for a long time taken the space of description of “other”. That is why the omission of the black motorcycle club community from motorcycle culture is not surprising. However, the black motorcycle club community utilizes the same process to refute the visibility of female riders.

  

Here is where it gets a little deep.  Although it can be noted that female motorcyclists in the black biker community as a whole are subject to inequalities, there is a distinctive thought process for this bias in the black sport bike motorcycle club community. It is one thing to be an all male club but when you accept females in your club it becomes a different beast. If you didn’t know motorcycle clubs are considered a black social institution that stands alongside the church, school, and family and it is a battleground where black men seem to think they can reclaim their manhood; I am informing you what time it is.

  

As I mentioned in the beginning of this article I questioned what the future will be for the black motorcycle community. Sexism within black motorcycle clubs, although it is much more crucial then we want to accept affects both male and female in adverse ways; so without a proposed solution I believe we will again destroy ourselves.

  

Like photos that degrade women, a number of black female riders are at a crossroad on how to present edifying support without compromising themselves in black motorcycle clubs.  Racial strengthening will not happen with a divided effort. To exclude black from the black empowerment movements and banishment from the social evolution in these organizations, such as motorcycle clubs, is detrimental to the very institutions that reject them.

  

We can no longer justify the gender politics of black motorcycle clubs as a way of strengthening the social system in which the father or eldest male is head of the household, having authority over women and children; today this is foolish.  Barbara Ransby and Tracye Matthews argue against the same practice in other African-American patriarchal institutions.  It “is not an assertion of Black manhood.  It is a debasement of Black womanhood, and by extension Black personhood”.

  

Black men in the United States still have higher unemployment and incarceration rates than black women (U.S. Census Bureau), which limits leisure time and spending.  With black female riders increasing daily, companies like Harley-Davidson is marketing to African American women and black motorcycle clubs will either progress and accept us or wither away as another lost treasure of African-American history.

  

In hopes to not really create a rise I’m trying to not have the discussion about black male motorcycle clubs where I am making a comparison between them and their white male counterparts.  These important enlightening issues must make their way into our motorcycle community as black bikers.

  

I will end with hope that this article will evoke a change within a few black male motorcycle riders and black motorcycle clubs that are discriminatory. I don’t know if you realize that white bikers don’t give a damn about your black clubs. Why because it’s that way. I honestly feel this will not occur until we do away with the ill practices we present to one another and unite, and then they will feel like they have a force to reckon with. The same racism and degradation black male bikers experience from white bikers you are imposing upon your black sisters within the motorcycle community. Honestly ask yourselves how does it make you feel my brother?

  

Does it feel good to you to be oppressed, dismissed, disrespected, set apart, discriminated, considered as other; unequal, unrated…I can continue with the adjectives. This is how you treat your sisters. Let’s stop the shit and respect one another as fellow motorcyclists and our love of the throttle.

  

Goldie Just Goldie

  

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Riding season has just started and I’ve heard of at least five bikers who have died or were injured. There are clubs that don’t adhere to correct formation during group riding like riding side by side. That is definitely a no no. So I want to share some knowledge with you and you can use it if you like. I just want to save a life!

  

Riding Formations

  

There are three basic patterns that can be used by a group of riders. Each may be appropriate at different times during the ride. Remember that conditions dictate what is proper at any given time and different conditions may even exist for different points in the same formation. The “rules” should not be so rigid that they prevent individual choices during any given situation.

  

The three patterns or formations are:


  

1. Staggered Formation. The most common choice of highway travel, the staggered formation has several advantages. In the staggered group, the lead bike occupies the left half of the travel lane, the second rider in the right half of the lane and the remaining riders alternate. The staggered formation is suitable for most open road travel, particularly on multi-lane highways. It is not; however, safe for narrow or winding secondary roads. Give yourself and others plenty of room in such situations. Another important consideration is following distance: the minimum safe following distance is two seconds from the time the bike immediately in front of you passes a stationary object to the time you the same object. Some feel the two second rule applies only to the bikes on one side of the lane. That works only until an object enters the roadway from the right in front of bikes preceding you, which may swerve to the left and may brake hard.

  

Now you have an emergency situation that develops only one second ahead of you in your part of the lane. The same kind of situation can be caused by an on-coming vehicle drifting across the center line and crowding the bikes in the left half of the lane. If your group rides at the closer interval, make sure that all riders understand and accept the increased risk.

  

2. Single File. Riding in single file is appropriate on winding, narrow or particularly rough roads. It allows for each rider to use all of his/her lane for proper lane position on comers and to avoid obstacles or potholes in the road. When riding single file, the normal lane position is the left half of the lane; however, each rider has the freedom to move around in the lane to adjust for road and traffic conditions.

  

3. On Your Own. The third method of group riding allows for each rider to act as an individual. It allows each rider more flexibility, but is also the most difficult to control and keep together. On some secondary roads, where “passing zones” are short, riding “on your own” may be the only safe way to move the group around a slow moving vehicle. Communication between the lead bike and the “back door”, or “tail gunner” is essential to keep the group from becoming separated.

  

Entering Main Roads

  

Entering main roads, whether from a parking lot into a secondary road or an entrance ramp onto a controlled access freeway can present a challenge. In a slow or residential area, it may be possible to stop other traffic so that the entire group can enter the road together. If you attempt to stop other vehicles, be sure that the “blocker” gets the attention of other drivers and stops them before placing himself or his bike in the lane of traffic. Some drivers will stop and let the group out together, but remember that we have no special right to expect them to give up their right-of-way just because we are in a group formation. Thank those who do cooperate.

  

Be sure everyone is alert and ready to move when you start so the group can quickly enter the road with as little delay to others as possible. Many times it is not possible to “block” traffic in order to enter a roadway. In such cases, riders must wait for an appropriate opening and then move a few, or even one at a time. Unless traffic is blocked, the entrance should be made in a single file or “on your own.” Once all bikes are on the road, riders can re-group by passing vehicles inside the group, or encouraging them to pass the bikes ahead. The lead bike should maintain a speed close to the normal flow of traffic, which will allow space for maneuvering behind him and not cause a dangerous bottleneck for the remaining riders and other drivers.

  

Entering a divided highway from an entrance ramp should only be done “on your own”, although single file may be used approaching the point of merging. Space must be available to each bike to allow for speed adjustments required to facilitate merging safely into the travel lane. The lead bike should never enter the highway and slow down to keep the group together. All riders should be at the speed of other traffic when they enter the highway. Multi-lane roads provide plenty of time and space to re-group, but speed must be maintained.

  

Overtaking


  

When passing slow moving vehicles on secondary (two lane) roads, go to single file if traveling in staggered formation and then pass when it is safe to do so “on your own.” The entire group will seldom be able to pass at once and it is not necessary to do so. The lead bike must maintain speed until far enough in front of the passed vehicle to allow room for all the other bikes in the group to pass safely.

  

Passing on multilane roads can be accomplished in the same manner as secondary roads; however, some riders prefer to move the group as a single unit. This is done by using the “back door”, or “tail gunner” as a blocker. The leader informs the rear bike rider that he, or she wants to move the group to the left (or right) lane and asks him to block the lane. When he can safely do so, the back door moves into the desired lane and blocks it to prevent other traffic from passing the group. He should then notify the leader that the lane is blocked.

  

There are two methods of completing the pass from this point. The leader can wait until all traffic has cleared the desired lane then signal for all bikes to move into the new lane at the same time. Another method is for each rider, from the blocker forward, to move into the new lane as it becomes “clear” to his position. That is, the blocker, or last bike moves to the new lane, then the next to the last, then the rider in front of him, etc. all the way to the lead bike. The rear bike moves first to block the desired lane. When each bike moves to the new lane in turn, from rear to front, interruption of the flow of other traffic is kept to a minimum. When the entire group waits to move together, it creates a long empty space in the desired lane that tempts other drivers to force their way in between the bikes in the group. The method used should be decided during the pre-ride briefing.

  

Regardless of which method is used, speed is critical. Often the lead bike will pass a slower vehicle and after a short distance resume the original speed of the group. This must be avoided. Many vehicles will increase speed slightly when being passed. If the lead rider does not maintain his “passing speed” until the whole group has passed the slower vehicle, a dangerous backup will form behind the group. The leader must maintain the passing speed until notified by the “back door” that all bikes have passed the slow vehicle.

  

It is also critical that the leader recognizes a slower moving vehicle far enough ahead that the lanes change can be completed before reaching the vehicle. The group should not have to slow down and “follow” the slower traffic before changing lanes to pass. A skillful group leader will be able to maintain a constant speed and not continually adjust the group’s speed with every maneuver.

  

Stopping at Traffic Lights


  

When stopping on the road for traffic lights, the group should approach the light in a staggered formation. As riders stop, they should “close up” the formation and stop side by side. The formation will compress and take less space on the road. It will also allow for a quicker start when the light changes so that more bikes will be able to get through the light. Riders return to the staggered formation when they have gotten through the light.

  

Road Hazard Warning


  

When one of the leading riders notices a hazard in the road, he should point at it to warn those riding behind him. Warnings should be given for objects or conditions that may not be seen by following riders and that could cause them a problem (broken bottles. mufflers, tailpipes, etc.). Warnings are not necessary for every grain of sand, twig, or piece of truck tire in the road. If the warning is over-used, it will become less effective to the group and there is a tendency to become complacent if items that are not a danger to the rider are continually being pointed out as hazards.

  

Speed

  

Travel speed for the group should be discussed and agreed upon at the pre-ride briefing. The safest speed is normally slightly higher than the prevailing traffic flow. It is obvious that some adjustments for conditions and traffic situations will be required throughout the ride. The group travel speed should be one with which all riders are comfortable. Riders; however, that can not, or will not ride at a speed at least equal to the normal flow of traffic should not ride in the group, since they will endanger all the other riders and cause lengthy gaps in the group formation. Speeding in heavy traffic in built up urban areas is extremely dangerous, particularly when riding in a group.

  

Leaving the Group

Any rider leaving the group should inform the group leader or back door when he/she does so. Notification can take place by CB radio or a visual signal.

  

These are not do or die rules of the road; they are suggestions that will save lives if implemented.

  

Thinker – FTR National President

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BEHAVIOR

  

The general public does not draw a distinction between different club colors. If one club causes a problem that touches the public sector, the heat comes down on all clubs. EVERYONE needs to be aware that no matter whether they are in an MC, RC, MM, or an Independent (Lone Wolf) rider, their actions reflect on all in the motorcycle community. The MC clubs tend to police themselves to avoid such incidents.

  

DESIGNING A NEW PATCH

  

When designing your patch, it would be a good idea to get to know some of your area clubs, and observe their designs and colors. If you can, bring your design to your local dominant club, and show it to them before having them made, making sure they approve. This is not a requirement but is a jesture of respect. Although this may be intimidating, generally, the dominant clubs are very receptive to this and will respect you for your consideration.

  

COLORS VS. PATCHES

  

Traditional MC’s differentiate patches from colors. In their eyes, patches belong to riding clubs and are purchased, not earned. Colors belong to motorcycle clubs and are earned. Colors represent a much deeper committment.The dominant club or local MC has expectations for others to adhere to when developing their patches.

  

Different numbers of patches represent different things to motorcycle riders.

  

ONE & TWO PIECE PATCHES

  

A one-piece patch normally represents a family club, riding club, or social motorcycle club. One piece back patches are generally accepted and approved, unless the patch displays stolen logos or those that are similar to the local MC. The UK is the only place where wearing any back patch other than the dominant club’s has created problems.

  

A two-piece patch can have many different meanings. Both of these types should be respectful to the area clubs by not infringing on their established territory.

  

THREE PIECE PATCHES

  

A three-piece patch normally signifies that the club is a Traditional Motorcycle Club (MC). These are worn with the top rocker showing the club name, the middle showing the club’s patch and the bottom showing their territory location. There are also a few 3-piece patch clubs where the bottom rocker has something other than territory, such as a saying. The traditional MC is one that adheres to the protocols and traditions that have long been established. There are a few exceptions including veterans, firefighters, and Christian groups. Law-enforcement groups stand alone because, they are the law.

  

To keep it simple, a three-piece patch should only be worn by established MC’s. Becoming an “established” or “traditional” MC involves a well established protocol of sponsors and approvals by existing MC’s. Wearing colors that resemble a 3-piece patch with permission could turn out as a disaster. Do your homework, and show respect.

  

ROCKER PATCHES AND TERRITORY

  

Rocker patches (these are the top and bottom curved patches) are NOT AN OPTION FOR A RIDING CLUB PERIOD, UNLESS DIRECTLY SANCTIONED BY THE LOCAL DOMINANT CLUB. No rocker patches in any shape or form, not even unified rockers that are actually 1 piece are appropriate. ROCKERS ARE ROCKERS no matter what. This also includes any little patches that may have a rocker type design and are to be worn on the front of the riders’ vest or jacket.

  

RC’s and Social MC’s should never claim territory with a patch. DO NOT HAVE THE NAME OF YOUR STATE EMBROIDERED ON THE BACK OF YOUR VEST OR JACKET (even if it’s not in a rocker patch). That’s claiming territory and could get you places you don’t want to be. Chapter location bars are generally found on the front of an MC member’s jacket or vest. This small patch is how MC’s readily identify each other without actually wearing full colors.

  

1%er AND OUTLAWS

  

The term 1% comes from the AMA. After a violent event in the 60’s, the AMA wrote an article in their magazine, stating that “99% of all of their members are law-abiding citizens and only 1% are “outlaw””. This then, began what is today known as Outlaw Motorcycle Clubs and one percenters. The AMA named “Hells Angels” and the likes, as making up only 1% of all motorcyclists as being “The Bad Boys“. The Angels adapted that and became an exclusive 1% club. And ANY club that tried to wear that 1% diamond had better be able to back it up. The term “The Big Four” is the four largest 1% clubs and the most dangerous clubs in the world. 1.“Bandidos“, established 1966 2. “Hells Angels”, established 1948 3.”Outlaws”, established 1935 4.”Pagans” established 1959. The Bandidos , are the fastest growing outlaw motorcycle club in the U.S.

  

The fact is that 1%’s and outlaws are not at war with the world. They do not go out of their way to draw attention to themselves. Outlaw/1%er clubs for the most part keep the violence in the rival Motorcycle Club circle. The violence rarely spills out into the general public. Rival clubs have killed each for years over things like territory and simple arguments over what seems to be nothing to the average citizen. In the past, this had a lot to do with $$$ and income streams. Don’t try to claim territory or get involved with their business.

  

As you know they seldom wave at anyone. It is nothing personal and has nothing to do with the bike you ride. They also seldom wave at another outlaw club. The outlaws are a society within a society, with their own rules, own codes of conduct, own ways of reacting to the world. The fact is they respect you, other than that they don’t think about you at al.

  

Be as patient and as tolerant as you can when in a situation where you are approached by outlaws. It is not always a good idea to approach them even if you are just being friendly. Outlaws are very suspicious of an approach by a stranger. However, some can be very friendly provided you don’t ask questions about their “business”. Just be careful and respectful and you should not have a problem.

  

This information was shared by Full Tilt Riders.

  

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